You can choose Him and then not choose Him, and then choose Him again and then not choose Him, and you make the decision; and so, all of the promises of God are conditional on you. Wannabee Obi Wan Kenobi Oct 27, 2007 #9 No to Scofield. The end is as divinely designed as the beginning, and God has given us massive amounts of revelation in the Scripture about the future. That position was that Israel was to be identified with the church and this position is the seed of amillennialism, as well as postmillennialism and historic premillennialism. The completed registration allows us to send order and donation receipts to the email address you provided. Yet, Abraham did not receive it during all the time of his journey there. He has also written or edited nearly four hundred books and study guides. Please contact the publisher to obtain copies of this resource. Instead it consistently referred to the present age so that the church was currently experiencing the eschaton. And Im not in to newspaper exegesis, where you where everything that happens in the news fulfills some obscure Old Testament prophecy. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. And may I remind you that you have one very, very important reality to deal with in case you think theres no future in Israel: living Israelites. Its the whole point of the beginning and the middle. And there are others who believe that that refers to heaven; that refers to the experience of the saints in heaven. "MacArthur calls himself a "leaky dispensationalist"--meaning he rejects any and all "dispensational" soteriological innovations, holding to classic Reformed (i.e., Protestant, not "covenantal") soteriology. This is an account of the things formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. John MacArthur and Richard Mayhue's new systematic theology titled Biblical Doctrine has many positive aspects. 3. Only now has it happened, and so His promises may not be trustworthy, since they were given in the past, before so many things happened that He didnt know were coming to pass. Israel disobeyed the law, youre done. I think it matters to God. Amillennialism is an eschatological view that believes the millennium is not a literal thousand years. In 1 Peter chapter 1, you remember, Peter says that the prophets who wrote concerning Christ, concerning the things to come, wondered what person and what time. Not true. So here, we are living in the view of our eschatological triumph in Christ: the glory of the Rapture, the last trump, rising from the grave, made imperishable and immortal. The following resources pertain to eschatology the study of the end times. That is a large part of evangelical Christianity, the Wesleyan movement, Charismatic movement, Methodists, etc., etc., many Baptists. The Rapture, Antichrist, and Rebirth of Israel in Medieval Manuscripts. This is process theology. We chart the course and God reacts. Every Sunday morning for over 50 years, John MacArthur a faithful pastor with many of the same convictions as Barrow has ascended the pulpit of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, opened his Bible, and boldly preached God's Word to the thousands assembled there to worship. Tell us about the future. They were in a very hopeless situation, having very little in life. The "millennium" refers to the period of 1,000 years mentioned in Revelation 20:3, "He threw Satan into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years were ended. [2] Amillennialists do not view the thousand years mentioned in Revelation as a literal thousand years but see the number "thousand" as symbolic and numerological. If you interpret Old Testament prophecies literally, they cannot be fulfilled in this present age. by Craig L. Blomberg and Sung Wook Chung [Grand Rapids: . We want the Word to bless, to make us pure, to stabilize us, to comfort us, to give us a passion for evangelism. Denominations such as Oriental Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Anglicanism, Presbyterianism[1] and Lutheranism are generally amillennial and interpret Revelation 20:16 as pertaining to the present time, a belief that Christ currently reigns in Heaven with the departed saints; such an interpretation views the symbolism of Revelation as referring to a spiritual conflict between Heaven and Hell rather than a physical conflict on Earth. And at that judgment, well be recompensed for the deeds done in the body, whether they are good or phaulos, meaning useless. And so, we stand steadfast, immovable. Weekly telecasts and daily radio broadcasts of "Grace to You" are seen and heard by millions worldwide. But, you know, of all the people on the planet who should be premillennialists, it should be those who believe in divine sovereign election, of all people. Origen was the first to challenge the doctrine openly. Allis - well-known - says, The Old Testament prophecies if literally interpreted cannot be regarded as having been yet fulfilled or being capable of fulfillment in the present age. Thats true. Romans 11:28 . First of all, we commend Dr. MacArthur for his solid Biblical position on Israel, and that Israel has a glorious future in the plan and purpose of God. Dispensational premillennialism (DP) offers the most complex chronology of the end times.It argues that the current church age will end with the rapture of the church (cf. Biblical Doctrine: A Systematic Summary of Bible Truth (English Edition) eBook : MacArthur, John, Mayhue, Richard: Amazon.com.br: Livros His teaching is still one of the most potent elements in Western religious thought.[24] Therefore, to analyze what happened to premillennialism in the Middle Ages and the Reformation, it is necessary to observe the Augustinian foundation. And then the effect of it is in verse 58: Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, and you can stop right there. For the day of the Lord is as a thousand years; and in six days created things were completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the sixth thousand year. Julian of Toledo (642690) summarizes the medieval doctrine of the millennium by referring to it as the church of God which, by the diffusion of its faith and works, is spread out as a kingdom of faith from the time of the incarnation until the time of the coming judgment. MacArthur--who is an ardent dispensationalist--stated and defended his position. Im unwaveringly committed to that. Show it to me. In the meantime, Ive continued to study the Old Testament to write all the footnotes for the MacArthur Study Bible through the entire Old Testament. And by the way, if we change the rules, what are the new ones? My professors were a Who's Who of dispensational premillennialism: John Walvoord (then president of DTS), Charles Ryrie (author of Dispensationalism Today and The Ryrie Study Bible ), and J. Dwight Pentecost (author of perhaps the most influential text on the subject at that time, Things to Come ), just to mention the more well-known. So, if you say the promises of the Old Testament that refer to Israel really meant the church, you have no precedent for such an interpretation. And again, I say, His election is divine, unilateral, unconditional and irrevocable. But in the Old Testament - for example, Isaiah 45:4: Israel, Mine elect. Out of their own mouth - whats wrong with that? Regarding Marcion and premillennialism, Harvard scholar H. Brown noted. How could He hold any of us, in one sense, responsible for not believing? Father, we thank You for a great evening together; wonderful testimonies, great fellowship and how - how good it is to think deeply and broadly about the glory of Your Word. I have thought about these things, by the way, for a long time. 3. This is simply a way to understand Scripture in its normal sense. Relax; set all that aside. Not that they were the end, but they were the means to the end. But let me tell you something: normal, natural, literal interpretation is the only way to stop abuse of Scripture. Do you understand the massive apologetic power of the existence of Israel as an ethnic people in their own land? Christ will return, He will come in a glorious second coming to earth - but not to establish His kingdom, but rather after His kingdom has been established. Joachim divided earth's history into three periods. 4. It is one thing to omit them for a time, and another to do it ordinarily. So, my words to you are really very simple foundational words, I say this. Not one reference anywhere in Scripture - and there are over two thousand, referring to Israel - means anything other than Israel. The reason why it's called "historic premillennialism" is that, historically, this was the allegedly commonly-held view by many of the church fathers like Iraenus, Pappias, and Justin Martyr. And for most evangelicals, for most people who hold to a sound, biblical view and Reformed theology, they would live and die that the text of Genesis 1 through 3 means exactly what it says it means, because thats the only way to interpret Scripture. ; 2) Egypt in the following years; and 3) Judah in 605 B.C. John MacArthur's first message at the Shepherds' Conference set off shock waves throughout the reformed evangelical church by upholding Premillennialism as being the only consistent position for any person who holds to the doctrine of sovereign electing grace. When He comes, everything ends immediately. How could He hold them responsible for not believing? This view originated in the 1830s from the teaching ministry of one John Nelson Darby, an early leader in the Plymouth Brethren movement. Those are the views. 2. Thats a hard sell, frankly. And Im not into all kinds of complex charts, and Im not into all that is traditionally known as dispensationalism - seven dispensations, two kingdoms, two New Covenants, two ways of salvation, discontinuity between the Old Testament and the New - Im not talking about that. Whats that about? That is to say, while they understood that someone would come, they understood whatever it was that had been revealed to them, the timing was not clear, and the precise personages were not clear. Why bother? You never met a Hittite, an Amorite, a Hivite, a Jebusite, or any other ite. They have long since morphed into the melee and the mix of the races. Popular proponents of dispensational premillennialism have been John F. MacArthur, Phil Johnson, Ray Comfort, Jerry Falwell, Todd Friel, Dwight Pentecost, John Walvoord (d. 2002), Tim Lahaye, Charles Caldwell Ryrie (in the notes for the Ryrie Study Bible), Norman Geisler, Erwin Lutzer, and Charles L. Feinberg. In fact, its an impossible effort since it doesnt mean what it says, and you have to sort of allegorize it or spiritualize it and therefore interpretations are myriad; they are as many as interpreters. There isnt such a thing. The assembly and the circumstances of the assembly must be distinguished. Craig Blaising and . So to interpret Matthew 24 the way John MacArthur does as all about the tribulation period, and then all of a sudden you get to verse thirteen and you read into that a whole soteriological concept that I've got to make it to the end of my life in good works to prove I'm a Christian so I can get to heaven. Contrarily, certain Anabaptists, Huguenots, and Bohemian Brethren were premillennial. 3. This makes two distinct judgmentsone for Christians and one for non-Christians after the millennium. Whether youre an amillennialist or a postmillennialist, you basically say Israel forfeited all its promises. Certainly, you have no idea what it means - neither does anybody else. When Frederick the Great called his chaplain in and he said, I want proof of the truthfulness of the Bible, and I want it briefly, the chaplain replied, Sir, I can give you proof of the truthfulness of the Bible in one word: Israel.. 1897 (Western Theological Seminary) (James Orr) .. In the fifth book of Against Heresies, Irenaeus concentrates primarily on eschatology. Theres a rapture, and theres a bma seat judgment; we know that. As one prominent amillennialist said when asked, What is the biblical significance of the existence of Jews in their land? and he said, It has no significance at all. Really? He then notes that, nevertheless, "the virtual theology which surrounds premillennialism is today stronger and more widely spread than at any time in history."[50]. In the modern theological world, I say leave amillennialism to the process theologians. Next would be the rapture, and then Jesus and His church would return to earth to rule for a thousand years. There is no doubt that he does hold to the fundamental distinction between the Church and Israel, though he does not always apply this distinction consistently. Israel crucifies the Messiah, thats it. You forfeit everything, and God gives it to somebody else - namely, the church - and we hope the church can do better than Israel or the church will forfeit it all as well. Where is the divine mandate to do that? And theres the main verb in the sentence are in varying degrees of disinterest in applying their skills to the end of the story, and rather, content to be in happy if not playful disagreement in regard to the vast biblical data on eschatology, as if the end doesnt matter much - period. Moreover, John, as again stated by Papias, ascribed the origin of millenarianism to Christ . . [25] In accordance with this view, Augustine divided history into two separate dispensations, first the church age (the current age of 6,000 years), and then the millennial kingdom (Sermon 259.2). You can believe and be saved and then you can forfeit your salvation. Most of the Reformers and the Puritans were postmils. That in itself is an indication of Gods preservation for their future. Why do we want to change the rules in interpretation to avoid that? In one passage he defends premillennialism by arguing that a future earthly kingdom is necessary because of God's promise to Abraham, he wrote The promise remains steadfast God promised him the inheritance of the land. He made them in the past, when He didnt know what He now knows, because what was going to happen hadnt happened. That's a complete misreading. There are two great elect people in the Bible: Israel and the church; and Israel is elect, as the church is elect - the New Testament is full of comments about the church being the elect. I was talking to one of our missionaries just this same week I gave this talk to the pastors, and he was coming back from China and he said, Theres only one view in the church in China and its the premillennial view. Of course, because they just take what Scripture says. He loved the ministry. The first view well call the postmillennial view; that is to say, that Christ will come after the millennium; that the return of Christ is post, it is after the millennial kingdom. . Did God do this but somehow mumble? . "[36] Furthermore, John Calvin wrote in Institutes that millennialism is a "fiction" that is "too childish either to need or to be worth a refutation". If you get that right, your eschatology will come crystal clear. Historically, church fathers favored historic premillennialism, including Ireneaus, Papias, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, and Hippolytus. There was a clear majority position among the earliest church fathers on the relationship of Israel to the church. Thats for people who dont know this; that the way history ends, is with Jesus coming and taking us away. And Im confident that God didnt reveal prophetic truth in so much detail to hide anything, to obscure the truth, but to reveal it for our blessing, our motivation and His glory. [48] Premillennialism continues to be popular among Evangelical, Fundamentalist Christian, and Living Church of God communities in the 20th and 21st centuries,[49] expanding further into the churches of Asia, Africa and South America. 2. Also, they believe the millennium has already begun. We can interpret it the way we interpret any other passage of Scripture, with the same use of the normal, natural means of interpreting language, and we should; and it will yield for us as clear an understanding of the future as the Lord wants us to have. 2. Its there. First John 3 verse 2: Beloved - 1 John 3:2 Now are we the children of God. Turn to 2 Corinthians chapter 5 verse 9; 2 Corinthians chapter 5 verse 9: We have as our ambition, whether at home or absent, - that is, whether in heaven or here - to be pleasing to Him - to be pleasing to Him. Weve been working our way through doctrinal emphases in Scripture, doctrinal themes, and we have covered a lot of ground. MacArthur, John, and Richard Mayhue, eds. He considers the Mosaic history of the creation a type of six ages of labor for the world, each lasting a thousand years, and of a millennium of rest, since with God one day is as a thousand years. Millennial Sabbath on earth will be followed by an eight and eternal day in a new world, of which the Lords Day (called by Barnabas the eighth day) is the type" (, Note this is Victorinus of Pettau not Marcus Piav(v)onius, Augustine wrote in regards to the premillennialism And this opinion would not be objectionable, if it were believed that the joys of the saints in that Sabbath shall be spiritual, and consequent on the presence of God. But his influence did gain wider acceptance especially in the period following Constantine. [62] It also widely holds to the pretribulational return of Christ, which believes that Jesus will return to take up Christians into heaven by means of a rapture immediately before a seven-year worldwide tribulation. Theres no sense in going in to all of that, except to say in both cases, they say there is no actual earthly reign of Christ fulfilling all Old Testament covenant promises. We shall all be changed, in a moment, the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed., Thats the rapture; were going to study the rapture. How could they believe unless He caused them to believe? There have been premillennial (traditionally known as "chiliastic) movements, including some Reformed theologians, since the early church but most . Forfeited all its privileges, forfeited all those things that God declared in covenant that He would give to them in the future; and they forfeit it by their disobedience to the Mosaic Covenant, by their apostasy from true religion and by their rejection of their Messiah. Or another way to say it would be this: how many of you have attended an amillennial prophecy conference? For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ - thats part of the coming eschatology. I think He cares that we get it right, thats why He wrote it, and I think He understands that His glory is at stake, and our hope and comfort is at stake and the evidence of Gods massive moving in history is at stake with regard to the future. So, they did it, and we distributed that at the Shepherds Conference - 350-page version of Revelation, in which the full interpretation is provided there and of course, you can advance to the full two volumes if youd like. We sent you an email. Guest. XVII., condemns the Anabaptists and others who now scatter Jewish opinions that, before the resurrection of the dead, the godly shall occupy the kingdom of the world, the wicked being everywhere suppressed."[35] Likewise, the Swiss Reformer Heinrich Bullinger wrote up the Second Helvetic Confession, which reads "We also reject the Jewish dream of a millennium, or golden age on earth, before the last judgment. They dont want to accept that the entire universe was created in six nearly twenty-four-hour days. "John MacArthur on Calvinism, Dispensationalism, Israel, and Hermeneutics: A Few Comments" . Did He do it and somehow muddle it so hopelessly that the high ground for Bible students and the high ground for theologians is to recognize the muddle and abandon the perspicuity or the clarity of Scripture on that subject? These are: postmillennialism, amillennialism, and historic premillennialism. 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